The Great Unwinding and The Aftermath

By: Tom Chatham

As global currencies wage a race to the bottom, citizens of the world are kept distracted by insignificant things to keep them calm right up to the end. The end will be the destruction of many world currencies and the savings of those invested in them. When that happens those who have lost everything will panic, and for good reason. The conspiracy theorists and sound money people will be proven to be prophets but none of that will matter by then.

All of the savings that people think they have was long ago looted by the bankers and now they must destroy those ledger entries that people think they have. Much like the phantom gold that no longer exists in vaults but only on paper, those ledger entries must be destroyed before the banks are required to give that money back to its rightful owners. It is not only the savings but the promised payments from government entities that must be eliminated. The government has made promises it cannot keep and now it must find a way out while maintaining “plausible deniability”.

That is the crux of the unwinding we will see in the near future. The people have been robbed of their wealth and their futures and now it is time to perpetrate the cover up so the guilty parties can sail off into the sunset with their ill gotten loot. It almost sounds like a movie plot but unfortunately the people will have to stick around after this show and deal with the aftermath. That is something most people do not see coming and are ill prepared to deal with emotionally, physically or financially.

There are many things that people will disagree on when it comes to the future but there are some things those following events will agree on.

There will likely be a catastrophic event in conjunction with a monetary crisis.

Most people will be completely unprepared for the events.

Only those that hold hard assets and the means to protect them will come through this with any wealth in tact.

The government will increase their control of the population.

Basic resources like food, water and energy will be expensive or difficult to get. This is especially true for imported goods.

People will lose the homes they cannot afford and their retirement savings.

Government payments will be cut off or severely cut back.

There will be armed resistance against the government as they reduce freedoms that people are accustomed to.

Roving gangs will likely be a problem at least in the short term following the crisis.

The country will look much different in ten years than it does now, and likely not for the better.

People will need a different strategy for retirement than they now hold.

Healthcare will become more expensive and less available to the average citizen.

The U.S. will likely become a third world nation as far as living standards are concerned.

These items point out the direction we are headed as a nation. Those that ignore the reality we now live in will suffer greatly and will be immobilized with fear and uncertainty as to what to do. The government they looked to in the past for guidance and safety will be at odds with their very existence in the future. Those things they took as a given will no longer exist.

This list defines what you as an individual must be prepared to deal with in the uncertain future ahead. Only by addressing these issues will you have any peace of mind in the coming days as events play out on a global scale. It has been said many times before but must be repeated because many still do not hear the message.

You must be prepared to provide basic necessities to your family for a prolonged period of time. This includes clean drinking water, nutritious food, shelter, sanitation, security, clothing, health care and any excess funds should be used to buy precious metals or some other wealth preservation tool. Any transportation and communication assets you have will greatly enhance your survival position.

Beyond these basic items you will also need to think about some way to produce income in the years ahead. Having special knowledge or capitol equipment to produce needed goods will insure you can continue to care for your family long term. The ability to produce food, water, clothing or energy and provide medical help or capitol goods will insure you have a product to sell that will be in demand.

In a dysfunctional world the business opportunities are many. Basic supplies that were once taken for granted will be sought after by everyone. Herbal remedies, meat production, paper goods, cleaning agents, tools, building supplies and such mundane things as blocks of ice and footwear will have to come from somewhere. Something as simple as an absorption freezer powered by a homemade power source like bio-gas can provide frozen meat and ice to sell the year round.

You must also be cognizant of many possible dangers that an uncertain world can present. These include natural disasters, the threat of war, disease, nuclear dangers such as fallout and contamination and chemical threats from malfunctioning plants and storage sites.

The ability to plan for the future is more imperative now than ever. It is a sad thing that people spend more time planning a summer vacation than they do for their future. That lack of planning will insure a difficult future for them and their children as the world unwinds at an ever faster pace taking their standard of living to ever lower levels until reaching the bottom of this unknown new world. You need to prepare now like your life depends on it, because it does.


Posted on September 9, 2014, in Economics, Preparedness and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink. 46 Comments.

  1. Not a big student of the Bible, but there is a verse that goes something along the lines of:

    A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

    It was true thousands of years ago, and still is. There are plenty of simpletons out there that will suffer when this comes down. So be it.

  2. So when is all this collapse supposed to happen? I and many others have read/heard about it for some time. Nothing has happened. Someone give me a timeline so I can go ahead and pull out of the banks. Many refuse to take money out because they have payrolls and bills to meet.

    • Nothing has happened? There are over 92 million working age persons in the U.S. now without a job and the actual U6 unemployment number is around 23%. Almost 50 million people are on food stamps. The actual inflation rate is running around 9% for the past four years. The collapse has already started. You need to think of it like a freight train. It starts out very slowly but begins to pick up speed faster and faster. If you have been going to the grocery store regularly the past few years you should have noticed the prices going up and the packages getting smaller. John Williams is predicting hyperinflation with the initial effects being seen by the end of this year. Jim Rickards is giving about six months before the serious consequences kick in and is predicting a 25 year depression. There are others that expect serious problems by Sep 2015. Personally, I’m operating under the assumption that things will get obviously worse by the end of this year and will turn really ugly by Sep 2015. That’s the closest thing to a timeline I can give you.

  3. People just don’t get it…seemingly incapable of understanding what will really happen when the dollar collapses or the grid goes down. The nerve to talk about making money and providing for the family post-teotwawki is ludicrous. Those that survive, probably counted in the thousands, not millions, will have done so by already knowing how to live off the land with what nature has provided. All of you write each and every article as if after the grid collapses that someday somehow things will begin to get better and we will patch society back together again. Absurd! Wake up people!

  4. What a good write up! definitely got me thinking about larger things in life.


  5. I think setting some money aside outside of the bank is a good first step. I have a fireproof, water resistant lock box I keep my auto titles, passports, ss cards, etc in. For the last few months, I have been taking $100 cash out of each paycheck and put in in there. $100 doesn’t hurt my budget too much, and it’s already added up to about $1200. At the very minimum, when TSHF, we’ll have some $ to use if debit cards and credit cards can’t work etc. I plan to keep doing this.

    • Money would be obsolete period. There would be nothing to back your worthless cash. You need to save and store commodities because that is what people would trade for. It will all be done using a bartering system, so take that money from your safe and go purchase COMMODITIES and hide them.

  6. I think I’m in pretty good shape for any ‘ unwinding ‘. I’ve been prepping now for 14 years and have learned a lot and made a few mistakes here and there.

    I have a large food, water and medical supplies cache. I can the veggies from my garden and buy rice, flour and sugar everytime I hit the grocery store. We even have a back up water source and the appropriate means of purifying that water.

    I have lots of TP and paper towels stashed as well.

    I have a large gasoline generator with 5 five gallon cans which would last me several weeks if used sparingly. We have three solar systems for charging our phones and kindles.

    There are also a great deal of precious metals squirreled away too. Oh, guns and ammo as well.

    The Plisken household is about as prepared as it can be for the suffering to come, but I’m sure I’ve overlooked some items that would be most helpful and provide a more comfortable life during the hard times coming.

    How long we could hold out I’m not sure. we’re only three persons and with proper conservation I think we’d be OK for a long term event which I kind of equate to the old saying about a bear chasing you. I just have to be faster than everybody else when the bear is going to eat you!

    Snake Plisken

    • Sounds like you are ready. I have a gas generator as well. Mine is 8kw. With a full tank we should get about 8 continuous hours. I have a few 5 gallon gas cans as well. I always make sure they are full. At the end of the summer, when I’m not using gas for anything around the property anymore, I make sure I add Sta-Bil to each can. Will stabilize the gas till the next spring/summer. I also put Sta-Bil in the generator if it didn’t already have it from the gas etc. In the house, we trade off the hot water heater and the fridge. After we take our showers, we cut the hot water heater and kick on the fridge. If we were to loose power for an extended period of time, I guess we’d only kick the fridge/freezer on for a few house a day to keep everything frozen etc. Btw, we do not run the generator full time, just when we need it. Don’t have the heat or AC hooked to it. Have a wood stove, and if it’s summer, our downstairs is always cool. I’m sure you know all of this, but just wanted to post for all to see. Good luck.

      • My plan for the gennie is very similar to yours Dutch and use the Sta Bil as well.

        What really worries me is that I live Northern OH in a large mobile home. As you know the last winter in most of the USA was bitterly cold and I had huge nat gas bills. I’ve looked into wood burners that are EPA approved for trailers and the total installation cost would be around 3,500 to 4,000 dollars but that’s a little past my budget right now.

        I do have a high end kerosene heater that keeps this place warm at – 20 degrees below and some really cool ceramic heating devices that run on candles but they don’t really put out a lot of heat.

        The other alternative is to put black plastic sheets on the southerly side of my home which has many windows to help heat the house on those cold but sunny days.

        Keeping warm during winter is one of my most important issues I have to tackle.

        Best, and stay warm this winter!

        Snake Plisken

      • Snake – Another option, have you looked into those infrared heaters? They work quite well, and are only supposed to cost about a $1 a day to run. Might be perfect for your mobile home. As long as your have an electrical hook up. I use one in my downstairs, it gets pretty cold in the winter months. Really takes the chill out of the air. You can spend a lot of money on these heaters if you go with one of the big names, but I got a nice basic one from Northern Tool. I think I spent $90 maybe. Was a few years ago, but still works great. Cheers.

      • Thank you Dutch! I will most certainly check the infrared heaters.


        Snake Plisken.

  7. Looking at the responses to this article, which is basically a good read, except for the question, what are people going to do when their prepper supplies run out. I don’t ask or say these things to disrespect anyone or to come on like t-rex, is it maybe just that I really need some education as to how people plan to use a generator that makes noise that will lead the fifth mongolian horde to your home. The very things you are counting on will be taken from you so quickly that you will hardly have time to absorb what is happening to you. People talk about what is the best tent to buy. Another way to describe a tent is “death trap”. Opt for a poncho and sleeping sitting up next to a tree. At least you have a field of visions available and can see to shoot without having to climb out of your tent. What good is toilet paper if you don’t know what nuts, grasses, or plants to eat. A thousand ways to prep, and they all end in death if you don’t know how to forage. And forage is all we will have left, because the animals and fish will be consumed in just a few weeks after teotwawki. Has anyone really thought about setting up an off grid system in their backyard and living without electricity. It is as simple as walking out the back door land iving just like you will have to live when the juice stops flowing through the lines. You will find out quickly if you don’t have mosquito netting that death would be a relief. Prepping and practicing go hand in hand. Prepping without practicing is guaranteed to get you killed. Your own backyard will teach you most of what you have to know to survive. Give it a try, you have nothng to loose and everything to gain? God bless and keep on keeping on.

    • You raise some legitimate questions plowboy. One thing I have said repeatedly is that no one plan will work equally well for everyone. Everyone has their own set of variables they must deal with. In a crisis those variables will determine what you must do to get by. Where a generator may work fine for me where I live, someone in the suburbs may need a battery pack charged by wind or solar and a power inverter to supply primary power for refrigeration and communications to not be noticed. Forage may work well in some places but not in others, its all about location. You are right about one thing. People need to have a long range plan to supply their needs if the system breaks down for a protracted length of time. Practicing your plan is also good advice.

  8. Plowboy, you have hit on my greatest weakness. Although I do have a good working knowledge of edible plants in the wild I have never foraged for anything other than morels in the spring time.

    I was just thinking today about my Deadwood Rocket stove. I made a mental note to begin collecting and bundling the proper sized wood so that I don’t get caught flat footed should the power go out or there is a problem with my propane stove.

    Perhaps I’m a bit over confident ( ok a LOT overconfident ) because I grew up in the Boy Scouts and spent most of my time camping and exploring Southern AZ with few resources and survived quite well.

    Practice makes perfect and I need to pay more attention to this aspect of prepping.


    Snake Plisken

  9. If you will allow me to continue to ask questions and give comments that would be most appreciated ‘cuz I need all the help available, and occassionally even have things to say that are worth hearing. You are oh so right about location. Here in South Texas there is plenty of nature’s food on the ground for the pickings. But if we get pushed out of here into West Texas or New Mexico the pickings will be very, very slim unless someone knows of natural food sources there that we are not aware of. Specifically though, let’s talk about water. Food, we have, three years worth, dehydrated and now weighs very little and we can carry enough in a backpack to last for weeks, but water is heavvvvy! Even a gallon becomes a burden after the tenth mile of walking. We have stored water in various locations in jars, the jars inside pvc pipe, the pvc pipe buried underneath the ground. We have 24 life straws supposedly good for 250 gallons each. One prepper said we could extend the gallonage to 1000 per straw just by placing a coffee filter over the end, thus keeping the sand and silt out of the filter. Hope that works. Deep in the woods, in the dark of night, fifty miles from our home, we dug one well using an eight inch hand operated auger with homemade extension handles. Water was found at 35 feet but could be 335 ft in a different location. The hole was lined with 6″ pvc schedule 40 and we use a bailer bucket to draw the water. This requires no electricity or mechanical devices but is backbreaking work {the digging}. These are things we know work well as long as nobody discovers our well. Please if any of you have any better ideas on how to store, hid, or find water, then without hesitation send it our way.We would consider it a great blessing. Thanks always in HIS name.

    • Digging a well is definitely a good skill to have. Also keep in mind that there are many dug wells still in use around the country. Where I live you can drive around and see wells sitting in the middle of fields where old homes used to sit. One thing you might want to think about is some type of distillation unit, preferably portable. Remember 3/4 of this planet is covered with water, you just cannot drink it. In a major disaster many of the water sources may be contaminated so this is a good ability to have in addition to filtering it.

  10. A grid down would be the worst case event. 24 hr and all down hill from there.
    Plowman: you and I think a lot alike. you need to be invisible, a tent with a camp-fire, is sign saying come and eat me. People that need live, you have my sympathy and prayers.
    do anything you can to get off them. stock up at least 6 months supply if you can’t.

    So how to prepare? How long to prepare for ?
    I think it will be a lot like a bell curve, I think a 6 month supply of freeze dried food,water and how to make it safe to drink. I think many people will die from bad water.

    Remember 3-3-3 3 hr with out shelter…3 days with out water…. and 3weeks with out food …. all will kill you.
    knowing this and doing this, will get you over the top. If you and your family get passed the 6 month mark you will be experienced survivors and have a good chance. You have heard the old saying, survival of the fittest. GET IN SHAPE. Don’t keep all your egg in one basket.
    Have a flexible plan. Don’t do anything dangerous. No one will answer 9-1-1.
    Goo luck and God bless.

  11. Righ again on most of the water being undrinkable. Ground water contamination is rampant and getting worse down here due to fracking. We have been practicing with large candles, the ones that come in pint jars, so to speak. We place a small metal container of water on top and the lit candle will bring six ounces of water to a boil in about five minutes. This way we can purify water and cook small quanties of food without starting a fire big enough to give away our location. I am a veteran, but I’m finding out more and more that good ole civilian know how is the way to go. Some of you out there have definitely got your stuff together. Thanks!

  12. NOAA just issued a solar flare alert for the 12th. It’s an x class flare and they think another one will come out of the same “hole” and it’s pointed straight at us. Maybe it will hit us a glancing blow and not do much damage. I have to sign off for today but appreciate the good advice from all of you and Christ keep until we talk again. thanks

  13. Plowboy: Sounds like you need to evaporate and condense the water if you have chemical contamination in your area. Boiling just kills germs. A simple way to do that is to get a old kettle with a lid. A 4 or 5 qt. drill a hole in the lid sized to fit a garden hose fitting. attach a garden hose to that. The hose needs to be hung up about 2 or 3ft. above the kettle then coiled from the top down. you could use a stove pipe or a board ( 2×6 or 1×6 ) hang that from what ever will hold the weight of the board and hose.

    Put a weight on the lid so all or most of the steam goes in to the hose. put a container under the the end of the hose, and turn on your heat source. the water that comes out is pure water. No chemicals, no germs. even if the water had radioactive particles in it they will stay in the kettle. If you are getting more steam then water, add more hose.

    This is a quick and dirty way to get clean drinking water. if you have time and a little money you can make or buy a much more efficient unit. Google it, there is a lot of info on the subject. Good luck

  14. Thanks for the info on purifying the water especially the radioactive part ’cause we are 60 miles straight line distance from the Bay City nuclear power plants. Should a Fukushima turn into a Fukutexas that is good to know. Gosh, didn’t realize how gross Fukutexas sounds, sorry, anyway that has been a main concern of ours: to get noncontaminated drinking water after radioactive waste hits home. Sometimes we feel that living through teotwawki isn’t possible, just a matter of how long we can live into it. Tonight we did something we have never done, and that is go to a concert. We went to see Clint Black and he put on an absolute sterling show to a sold out crowd of about 1500 people. It was a very orderly event, but we couldn’t help but wonder even surrounded by nice people what would happen if the lights went out due to an emp or a solar flare. Stupid me didn’t even carry a small flashlite in my pocket. Love is a verb and we need to put more action into our efforts to protect those precious to us. To all of you out there, keep the faith, be strong, and if we never meet on this side of eternity, then please let none fall away, and see you at HIS feet. Even so Lord Jesus come quickly. Amen

  15. Great article.
    I just want to add that….You can do so much more besides store provisions and commodities.

    You can even do so much more on a suburban plot of land than you think you can, you don’t need a rural homestead. The library is chock full of books to get you started. All you need is to turn off the TV and computer and go explore. Practice. Talk to your neighbors, or not…depending. Being prepared for any emergency is just common sense. Planning is also common sense. But like others have said, you have to practice and live the life not just talk about it. How many of you have turned off the electricity and lived for a few days? That is where the rubber meets the road. Live like that for a few days and discover your weaknesses. We suffer power outages here frequently and making the switch is seamless for us, usually.
    But we all need to know our physical, logistical, emotional and most importantly, psychological weaknesses. Because surviving and thriving are all in the head.
    Pam Baker

  16. Plowman: you are welcome for the advise. make extra to share with other people. like you so well stated LOVE is a verb, love requires action.
    God bless

  17. Pam Baker where were you when I was younger!? You are hitting the nail on the head when you say live a few days without electricity. I basically live on my patio, w/o electricity and have a very small backyard, 40′ by 16′, but we took out the grass and put in 16 four by eight planter boxers and we grow all the food we can eat and then some. You are right, the weaknesses will become very evident and these are things that need to be corrected before the grid actually goes down. P.s. to Jocko, thanks for the reply and God Bless you too!

    • HA! “Pam Baker where were you when I was younger?” You wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve heard that…I’m starting to get a complex! When we were younger, men of that age were decidedly not interested in women like me!
      As we have journeyed on this path, we have discovered a multitude of insights and a plethora of ignorance’s. Starting to attempt skills like gardening, canning, raising livestock, living without electricity after a grid down scenario is ludicrous. I cannot stress that enough. These skills require practice. That’s why I call my blog The Homestead Experiment.
      But you don’t need a large parcel of land. Before we moved here we gardened on a suburban plot and had started preserving food. There is a family in LA that not only grow all their own food but actually have a CSA on something like a 1/10th of an acre!! Check them out here:
      We have made some significant “oops” and if there wasn’t any safety net, we would have had some lean times. Here are some excellent resources:
      In my humble opinion, if you have thought about surviving and done even a little preparing, you have a good chance of surviving. Again, because it’s mostly in the head. The next step is thriving and rebuilding. That is truly the harder row to hoe. Because thriving and rebuilding would require cooperation and careful management of group dynamics…and resources, something in which humans are woefully lacking. The “Aftermath” becomes very challenging if you attempt to retain morals and ethics. For instance, five months after an apocalyptic event, is it okay to just enter what appears to be an abandoned home and take raw materials? Is it okay to occupy an abandoned home? If so what happens if you’ve lived there for 5 months, made renovations/repairs only to have the owners or their relatives, show up after a monumental journey. I know of one fiction author who has touched on this and that is James Howard Kunstler in the “World Made by Hand” series.
      What happens when people show up to your homestead asking for work in exchange for food? What “three questions” are you going to ask them? How do you handle crime in your group? How do you handle lessor infractions? (Of course, some of it depends on just how far down the rabbit hole we go.)
      The answers to those seemingly esoteric questions are how your particular group not only survive but thrive. And just to be clear…no, I don’t have the answers. It’s something I think about every day. Actually, it’s what I worry most about besides figuring out how I can afford draft horses and solar panels and get them before it’s too late.

      • I think most people would agree that you cannot answer some of those questions now with any certainty. It is always good to wargame scenarios and think about possible responses but ultimately it will be the situation on the ground at that time that determines what you actually do.

  18. You guys and ladies need to get back intothe discussion. I love the way this article is titled, “unwinding” that almost adds a degree of civility to teotwawki. We were learning a lot so please don’t quit now!

    • You know plowboy, I think the people that take the time to prepare and think about what could happen tend to be people that act with some civility when the worst things happen and those that don’t want to contemplate the worst revert to animals when it does happen. Those that are always seeking answers are proactive in fixing the problem while others just want someone else to fix it. But, that’s just my observation on the subject.

    • You know plowboy, I think the people that take the time to prepare and think about what could happen tend to be people that act with some civility when the worst things happen and those that don’t want to contemplate the worst revert to animals when it does happen. Those that are always seeking answers are proactive in fixing the problem while others just want someone else to fix it. But, that’s just my observation on the subject.

  19. Sierra2zone, proactive is a good choice of wording. And you are correct, those of us who are preparing are already acting more civil than those who are just watching the world go by. This morning we set down and had coffee with one of our neighbors. He is 70 years old and has never heard of an emp. Had no idea we are having a close call with a solar flare today. No food stored away. Hasn’t fired his shotgun in 20 years and is seemingly convinced all is ok. He truly is a great neighbor, but not a hint of proactivity. We have to wonder how long after teotwawki would it be before he turns violent through panic. Statistics tell all of us that for every one of us [preppers] there are 329 of them [nonpreppers].Thanks for being there sierra, and the Lord keep you through the coming fiery trial.

    • Thanks plowboy, that’s the great thing about the internet, you can listen to what others are doing and pick and choose the things that will work for you. Knowledge is power.

  20. Hey Pam and thanks for the return message. Being raised on a farm back in the 50’s and early 60’s people like us were the norm, not the exception. Needless to say things have changed, haven’t they? Everyone has to do have their own plan, but we have never been able to get one, not one, person in our community interested in prepping. Also each location has its own set of unique problems. Ours is over abundance, as in oil. People down here get so much money from the oil companies via royalties that they think there is no end to the good life. But on with the show, we completely quit trying to interest other people in prepping and made all of our plans to survive alone. Wasn’t our first choice, but that’s what we had to do. In the following I am asking questions, not making statements, but do you think solar panels, draft horses, and so forth are a good idea? Wouldn’t it draw a lot of attention to your homestead? If you have an fbo [fix based operation] wouldn’t it be very easy to be raided, kidnapped, etc? As for us, we are heading for the woods, deep in the woods, and will make every effort to avoid any human contact whatsoever. Personally we don’t think there will ever be a chance for society to recover when the grid goes. A case in point is the water supply. People say the great die off will start in 30 days after teotwawki. But in reality it won’t last that long. Within three days almost everyone that hasn’t prepped will be injesting contaminated water and will be dead within ten days. This happened to me in Sudan in 2002 and nearly killed me even with good medical attention. Without it and I wouldn’t be writing this mail. This in not some tall tale, I was in a coma for a week. To this very day the effects of typhoid and malaria still haunt me. To answer your questions, yes, I would occupy someone’s home if it was empty and had been empty for awhile. Yes I would return it to them if they arrived some day regardless of the improvements we had made. Their relatives, never! But the point is mute, the people that owned the home will never be seen again. It really is that simple. If a person here in South Texas left for a couple of weeks vacation in Florida and the grid went down then they are goners for sure. People would be lucky to make it home even if they were just a 100 miles away. Wherever we are when the grid goes down; that’s home. Reference the three questions we ask strangers. We will be so deep in the woods that should people stumble upon us we will know they are not there with the welcome wagon and will make an appropriate response. Sad but that is just the way it is. Three questions are three two many when dealing with postteotwawki strangers. As with you, we don’t see the need for acreage. In fact we owned ten acres and it was nothing but a burden. A grevious burden: Taxes, trespassers, maintenance, wandering cows, and so forth. Now we grow all we need with lots left over in planter boxes in a 20 by 16 backyard. Acreage is another come and eat me sign. Anyway Ms. Pam have a great day and hope you make it out there, you sure sound like a winner. Christ bless!

  21. Giving some more thought to the ‘ Aftermath ‘ here. I believe there are a couple of different scenarios to play out but here’s what I think is most likely and why I prep in a certain way.

    No matter the event that precipitates the STHF event we all know that in a matter of hours or days the inner city will explode particularly if the residents are hungry and angry. The police and NG will be brought into tamp down the killing, burning and looting. The focus will be on keeping the inner city folks contained and out of the suburbs.

    The police and NG know that the suburbanites have plenty of firepower and can take care of themselves until the ‘burbians begin to run out of food and water. Then things will get dicey because hunger will drive normally passive people to do great harm to their former neighbors so they can eat. At this time, there will be all kinds of evil doers ( young and old ) who will no longer be bound by the construct of civility or law and will see this as a great opportunity to satisfy their evil lusts because there will be no real consequences for their actions.

    The Federal Government will be distributing food and water to both the inner city and suburbia but that will not last long.

    Diseases that we have practically eliminated will run rampant. Typhoid, rhuematic fever and polio will be back. Cholera and whooping cough will rage in the community and there will be a huge die off of people because the state and fed can’t possibly provide enough medical assistance or medicine.

    I predict that the medical profession, police and Feds will do a mental triage as who will survive. They will take care of themselves and family first and then the most important segment of our society ( Burbs ) will get the rest. Forget the barrios and ghettos. They can and will rage against the machine but by then it will to late for them.

    At this time our country will be very vulnerable to an invasion from an enemy from outside or possibly within who have been waiting for our attention and resources diverted elsewhere.

    If any of this comes to pass there are going to be millions of dead Americans.

    This too shall pass says the Good Book.

    That’s why I prep to be able out last of the worst of the worst that may occur. I figure 18 to 24 months of chaos and death.

    If I can survive that long hopefully things will be on the upswing. Power and water will be restored and farmers and ranchers will be supplying us with food again. The road systems will be rumbling with trucks.

    There will be millions of dead who were not prepared and I’m going to sound very harsh for saying this; good riddance. I don’t plan on being one of those dead because I am as ready as I can possibly be.

    The survivors will be in a state of shock at the horrific events that will befall our country and fellow country men. Hopefully we will come together as a nation and as brothers and sisters who honor and revere the Constitution.

    Hell, we may even experience a rebirth and revitalization of our country in the Aftermath that would amaze even the Greatest Generation. I pray this is so.

    • That’s a very likely scenario snake. The only thing I have to add is this. The government no longer stockpiles food for the little people so any of that food will likely be seized from the rural areas from farms and grain silos. I think this is the reason they make such an effort to know what farmers have at any given time. This is the greatest danger for the rural areas in this type of situation.

      • I believe you have an excellent point Sierra. I’m in a semi rural area surrounded by farms and we aren’t that much safer from the government if they decided to confiscate the crops stored in silos. The government will do whatever it takes to protect their survival.

        Snake Plisken

  22. It sounds like a lot of good people on this blog. I’m 70 + have been studying bush craft and survival skills for 30 yrs. ( could wright a book ) but not here.
    Have given a lot of thought to how things will go down WTSHTF. I will list some bullet points that I think will help some of you. take it or leave it, if it interests you research it on the web.

    Water is #1, boil it filter it. you have 40 gal of water in your hot water tank, after your neighbors die off there water tank will have 40 gal of water in it. you can boil water in a plastic water bottle over a camp fire, no it won’t melt, just loosen the cap. boil it for 3 to 5 min.

    Food: you should have 6 months food for each family member should be stored at 3 or 4 different locations. if you are over run, you can move to the next place. don’t tell any one that you are prepping, don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing ( that’s in the Bible ) your neighbor will sell you out for a Snickers bar. Don’t start your garden for 6 months, a well tended garden is another come and eat me sign. Remember a person can smell cooking food 5 mils a way. and can see a camp fire 10 mil away. that’s why I like freeze dried food, boil water mix and eat. use a Dakota fire hole. look it up.

    Med’s, soap, shampoo and antibiotics cold med’s, a lot of band aids, store a lot they are inexpensive, pick up 1 or 2 each time you go shopping, what you don’t use you can trade. the U.S.A.F. did a study on antibiotics and found that the were 80% effective 15 yrs after the exp. date.

    Hand tools, all kinds that don’t need fuel or elect.
    Feminine hygiene products, as valuable as bullets for trade
    Bow and arrows, sling shot, and learn to use them
    There is a lot of info on bush craft info on the web.learn some, it could save your life
    Knowledge is power and it weighs nothing, you will always have it with you.
    good luck.

  23. Snake, if there is a better day coming I’ll gladly receive it…but personally, once the lights go out I think it’s over forever. If the ever come back on…you can say..told ya.

    • I would never say told ya so to anybody. I just smile and kinda shrug. We both know that ‘ I told you so’ is a condescending ‘tude.

      Nope, when the dust settles, I’ll shake your hand and many of us can sit down and re read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Federalist papers and absorb the infinite wisdom of the Founding Fathers. We’ll then pray and begin a new journey for America. The way our Founders paved the way for this 230 year old run on this earth.

      Perhaps we really are in the end times and this is G-d’s will

      I can’t help that I’m an optomist. It’s in my DNA.

      However, if I’m wrong and the Nation never recovers, I’d still shake your hand and wouldn’t be offended if you said ” I told ya so”. 🙂

      Ps ( and completely off topic ) do you think preppers are realists, people seeking independence, hobbyists or paranoid?

      Snake Plisken

  24. Snake, preppers are all of the above, realists, independent, hobbyists, definitely paranoid, but probably more than anything else we are a scattered tribe of people united in spirit with a sense of mission and destiny. We train, we work, make mistakes, correct, fall, dust off our pants, arise and try again, all the time knowing our chances of making it through diminish with each setting of the sun. But somewhere inside our hearts the flame of survival flickers, we cannot stop, it’s just not possible. There is always one more item, one more jar or mylar bag of food, one more box of ammo, binoculars, medical supplies, and bibles. We are realists for no other reason than we see reality and do not retreat, instead we advance, stalking it, never denying the forces arrayed against us, yet boldly preparing for the worst as best we can with such meager resources. Although vast in number, we do it independently, as we are separated, cast about the countryside and citywide. There is no help to the left nor the right. In front, only obstacles, behind only ridicule.Their is no shoulder to cry on, no encouragement, no medals pinned on our chest, and no helicopter to insert or extract the soldier. We are abandoned, alone in the most unforgiving of environments. We tend to look at it as a hobby to soften the darkness of the unknown, the shadows in the forest, the ice on the poncho, and the gnawing of an empty stomach. In the end we become paranoid, for what sane man can prepare to stand against such insurmountable odds while raging against the fatigue of combating his own death, and the irretrievable ending of all he hold’s dear without shedding a tear. What we are doing, lest we slumber and fall away, is as important as D-Day or Okinawa. No one will ever know our plight and none shall call our names. We shall not have the honor of a decent burial, our bodies will stay where they fell, but in the end, albeit too late, the timid, withdrawn souls that neither new victory or defeat will realize there was only us and those that wish they could have been like us, for in Him we lived and had our being and through His strength we did prevail! We endured to the end and no-one can take that from us.

    • Plowboy, that is one of the best and most articulate post’s I’ve ever read about the prepper mindset. I read it three times to make sure I got the whole meaning of your post. I actually got a little emotional but in a good way.


      Snake Plisken

  25. Thanks snake, I have appreciated your advice and the other people on this website so much. Now it’s off to the woods for a few days to practice the arts of totally off grid survival. Should the undwinding occur before we talk again…then see you at His feet. Remember, we can never do enough, but we can always do more!

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